So good at wastefully spending other peoples money on illegally arriving foreigners

The main reason to read The Oz nowadays is for the comments after the stories. So there is this story, Victoria to help asylum seekers cut off by the Turnbull government, where this is the first para:

More than 100 asylum seekers will receive help from the Victorian government for food, housing and basic living costs after the Commonwealth cut off its support. Under Turnbull government changes, about 400 asylum seekers living in Australia for medical treatment will be transferred to final departure visas and expelled from Australia.

For myself, the issue of illegal immigration will be decisive at the next election, present polls or no polls. So these are the latest comments, in order from the most recent down:

To summarise, we will shut down Hazelwood and let our elderly freeze and workers lose work, we will put bollards up when refugees kill us, and then we will mock the very border policies that protect us with hand outs for illegals. The beauty of becoming completely unaccountable aka safe schools, euthanasia and billion dollar pay outs not to build a tunnel, is that eventually people cease being surprised. Victorians have been dulled into a stupor and think, well of course he would do that.

Yeh Mr Andrews, you support people who are using the system, lawyers to stay here when they don’t deserve to be here. Some are abusing our generosity and you support that. Mr Andrews, you are so wrong on this along with the CFA, CFMEU support and West Gate tunnel that I am amazed that you have anyone who supports you.

That’s it. I am old enough to say ” A Pox on all our governments” What ever that means!

Labor can no longer get voters on board with their policies. In order to get their support base up, they resort to rewarding those who rip off the system and those who take the taxpayers for a ride. I’m sick of Labor splashing our money around to support illegal immigrants. Imagine if the homeless started robbing Andrews personal bank account? I bet my last dollar he would be up in arms over people stealing from him. Just imagine how the taxpayer feels!

Here we go again. You just can’t trust the ALP when it comes to border protection. What is this guy thinking? Every people smuggler around this world knows about it by now. They never learn!

What is wrong with their silio ethnic grouping supporting them?

What about the homeless people who abound Melbourne CBD, will you do the same for them Premier?

He is just a modern politician pandering to his voter base. They are all the same.

Spot on!

Oh Mr Daniel Andrews, exactly what is holding these illegal arrivals up from leaving Australia? It surely doesn’t take them 6 months to get to the airport for their government paid flights back to their home country. It is good to see that the Andrews government is so good at wastefully spending other peoples money on illegally arriving foreigners who refuse to leave Australia after they have blown all of the their own money to arrive in Australia illegally. Really, this is classic socialism 101, whatever way you look at it or try to write about it. Yet the arrogant Daniel Andrews persists to angrily look down on all others for criticising him for his wasteful spending habits and policies. If only we were all privileged enough to wastefully spend huge amounts of others peoples money!

As Australians we help people that need help. Unfortunately our right wing government wont even help. Potato Pete uses his cruelty to persecute these refugees and when a state government helps the rightwhingers come out. People below are saying cant help our own and charity starts at home. Shame your government have cut them off too.

@John These people do not need help. After all they had sufficient funds to pay people smugglers. What is wrong with their ethnic communities supporting them?

It’s not about anti immigration. It’s about anti illegal immigration.

What part of that don’t you and Red Dan understand, John?

OMG the bleeding heart Andrews shows his moral superiority whilst the majority of Australians know these opportunist are playing for mugs !

“We’re making sure these families will have a roof over their head, clothes on their back and food on the table.” And then they’ll never leave. They are illegal.

Stop putting the sugar back on the table. Besides, there are advocates out there moral posturing how they would give anyone on Manus or Nauru a bed at their house…Let them step up

If you want to give even more money to illegal immigrants Dan then pay for it out of your own pocket not Victorian taxpayers.

Show pony and grandstanding. How predictable. Minority rights over the common good.

Don’t forget to provide a Safe Schools Programme for their kids, in their own language of course.

Charity should start at home, Dan. So many needy in Melbourne

Not Andrews money, it’s mine and I’m not happy.we have bigger problems than this pr stunt.

Do not fear @William. Andrews has proven himself to be one of our States worst leaders. He won’t survive the next election. Will be glad to see him go as will most people living in regional Victoria.

So we go out of our way for illegal people but can’t help Australians. Well done Andrews.

Peter Your government wont help them either all they do is take things away.

Mr Andrews, can you also help Victorians who are homeless, others who cannot pay their power bills???

But, will they have electricity for lights and gas for cooking and warmth, Daniel?

Not guaranteeing the electricity, Mr Andrews?

Dear me, what about our own homeless. I believe there is a man just started his walk to Canberra from Melbourne to help the homeless. Help them too, Mr Andrews, please!

No soup for them

Jerry Pournelle RIP

From Jerry Pournelle’s last post.

Thursday, September 7, 2017

Being intelligent is not a felony. But most societies evaluate it as at least a misdemeanor.

-Robert A. Heinlein

The map is not the territory.

Alfred Korzybski

If you establish a democracy, you must in due time reap the fruits of a democracy. You will in due season have great impatience of public burdens, combined in due season with great increase of public expenditure. You will in due season have wars entered into from passion and not from reason;

Benjamin Disraeli

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

George Santayana

Between 1965 and 2011, the official poverty rate was essentially flat, while the government spending per person on poverty programs rose by more than 900% after inflation.

Peter Cove

Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for the West as it commits suicide.

Burnham

If a foreign government had imposed this system of education on the United States, we would rightfully consider it an act of war.

Glenn T. Seaborg, National Commission on Education, 1983

“Deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

We are a nation of assimilated immigrants.

Immigration without assimilation is invasion.

We have to start with the premise that the goal is to defeat the enemy.

Jim Woolsey

The most dangerous organisation in world history

Sent from my old public school mate in Silicon Valley with this note:

Excerpt from the book “Who Rules the World” by Noam Chomsky. I found his comments to be accurate. I hope that you are able to make out the text.

So as we experience brown outs and black outs, this is the morality that lies behind it. Meanwhile he has his four cars and million dollar lifestyle. It is the rest of us who should stay home and freeze in the dark.

What really happened

Hillary has just released her campaign memoir, What Happened, in which she blames everyone under the sun for her loss. For myself, I have never been in much doubt about the mechanics about what went wrong for her. There is only one person to blame and that is Obama, with Comey and Loretta Lynch playing major supporting roles. This is what I think happened with Point 2 decisive in allowing one to understand what went on.

1) Obama hates Hillary.

2) Tim Kaine is not just from the Obama side of the Democratic Party but was one of the first of the Democrats to defect to Obama in 2007. She would have hated Kaine to an infinite degree. Hillary would never ever under ordinary circumstances have chosen him for her Vice President, even assuming he would be a great campaign asset which he most assuredly was not.

3) However, she can only run for president if she is not under indictment for the undoubtedly illegal use of an insecure server. Hillary was therefore compelled to choose someone who she would never have chosen as her Vice Presidential candidate.

4) Obama’s aim was to be succeeded by someone with his own agenda to carry on where he had left off.

5) Hillary wanted to be president, but not necessarily serve as president. She is a sick woman which can hardly be denied. She might not have lasted a year before her illnesses would have forced her to resign.

6) But in any case, just in case she was reluctant to give up the presidency once she had it, the evidence of illegal activity could be used to impeach her if she chose to battle on, or at the very least, force her to stand aside and allow the Vice President to take over.

7) Comey had begun the original investigation, which was extraordinary enough. But since it is necessary for Hillary to win if Kaine was to become president, Comey – under instruction – says on his own bat that she has no case to answer.

8) Hillary then moves to the front and looks set to win the election. But now there is no means to force her from office if she doesn’t want to go. So suddenly 650,000 classified emails are found on Weiner’s laptop leading Comey – under instruction from Obama – to open the investigation again.

9) But then, to everyone’s astonishment on the Democrat side of politics, Trump begins to move ahead in the last week of the election, throwing the result into doubt. The investigation against Hillary therefore needs to be shut down immediately. Comey therefore declares that they FBI has gone through the 650,000 emails and states there is nothing there to prosecute.

10) But by then it is too late and Trump gathers just enough momentum due to the various scandals that have surrounded Hillary to win the election.

And to add a bit of fuel to my little fire, this is from back in May: Clinton blames Comey, WikiLeaks for election loss. I think this is exactly right:

Clinton said she was on track to winning the election until Oct. 28, when news broke that Comey had sent a letter to Congress announcing that he had reopened the investigation into her emails. . . .

“I was on the way to winning until the combination of Jim Comey’s letter on October 28 and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me, but got scared off,” Clinton said.

The only thing Hillary has ever said that was true. Now she has written her book which is discussed in this article, Cluelessness, thy name is Hillary Clinton. In the book, she blames Obama and Comey among others but doesn’t single them out. All this was discussed before the election and can be found in my Art of the Impossible, a book that in my view becomes more interesting the farther from the election we are.

Putin warns of planetary catastrophe

My focus almost daily is on North Korea since there is a lot that can go wrong, with an attack on the Norks not the worst of the outcomes. You may be sure everyone who matters is wondering to what extent the US has become a paper tiger. There are plenty of others, from Iran to China who will gauge things by what Trump ends up doing about a madman with nukes who is building ICBMs in hardened silos and threatening to blow up various American cities. This is Putin’s entry into the mix of views: North Korea nuclear crisis: Putin warns of planetary catastrophe. He definitely would like to see America’s foreign policy reach diminished (even with his best friend in the White House). So what does he say.

The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has warned that the escalating North Korean crisis could cause a “planetary catastrophe” and huge loss of life, and described US proposals for further sanctions on Pyongyang as “useless”.

“Ramping up military hysteria in such conditions is senseless; it’s a dead end,” he told reporters in China. “It could lead to a global, planetary catastrophe and a huge loss of human life. There is no other way to solve the North Korean nuclear issue, save that of peaceful dialogue.”

Peaceful dialogue, just like in The Ukraine. He also said this which is what I particularly liked:

“We all remember what happened with Iraq and Saddam Hussein. His children were killed, I think his grandson was shot, the whole country was destroyed and Saddam Hussein was hanged … We all know how this happened and people in North Korea remember well what happened in Iraq.

“They will eat grass but will not stop their [nuclear] programme as long as they do not feel safe.”

They are already eating grass because of the nuclear programme. The very idea that the people in North Korea have any say of any kind in what goes on is so ludicrous that they must have laughed themselves stupid when they put this statement out.

Meanwhile, North Korea has virtually disappeared from the news, no doubt because it is showing Donald Trump’s worth as a president.

On the Ball

Tim Ball, that is. Dr. Tim Ball Crushes Climate Change: The Biggest Deception In History. From which:

The Club of Rome (COR), formed in 1968, decided that the world was overpopulated and expanded the Malthusian idea that the population would outgrow the food supply to all resources, especially the developed nations. COR member Maurice Strong told Elaine Dewar in her book Cloak of Green that the problem for the planet were the industrialized nations and it was everybody’s duty to shut them down. Dewar asked Strong if he planned to seek political office. He effectively said you cannot do anything as a politician, so he was going to the UN because:

He could raise his own money from whomever he liked, appoint anyone he wanted, control the agenda.

After five days with him at the UN she concluded:

Strong was using the U.N. as a platform to sell a global environment crisis and the Global Governance Agenda.

He created the crisis that the by-product of industry was causing global warming. Even Obama claimed that 97 percent of scientists agree. If he checked the source of the information, he would find the research was completely concocted. It is more likely that 97 percent of scientists never read the IPCC Reports. Those who do express their concern in very blunt terms.

And those who don’t put on black ski masks and club other people in the streets.

“Be very careful” is their sage advice to PDT on North Korea

There is an article on the editorial page of The AFR titled, The West is sleepwalking to war with North Korea. The joint authors are Admiral Chris Barrie, a former Chief of Defence Force and an honorary professor at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, Roger Bradbury professor at the National Security College, and Dmitry Brizhinev who is a researcher. All three are at the ANU. And if you want reason to worry, but also gain a deeper insight how we ended up in the mess we are in, read this article. It is almost as terrifying as Kim. Let me begin with this:

In June, Jim Clapper, the recently retired US Director of National Intelligence, spoke at the Australian National University. He made his view clear when he said “there are no acceptable military solutions to the problem of North Korea”. It seems that Washington is not listening to his sage advice.

Maybe “there are no acceptable military solutions” but whatever solutions there are will never include saying things like “there are no acceptable military solutions”. If these people truly believe that Clapper was providing “sage advice” then I have no further reason to think I will learn anything worth knowing about the military by reading what they write. They then naturally go on with their virtue signalling about what a mistake it is that Trump is president:

Unlike the cautiousness of President Kennedy in 1961 over the Cuban Missile Crisis [who almost blundered us int a nuclear war with the soviets], today we have an untrusted and untested leader in Washington whose entire previous career has depended on winning the bluff in the world of business in general, and New York property development in particular. But, even in terms of his business career, Donald Trump has had a record of bankruptcy from which he doesn’t seem to have learnt anything about changing his behaviour.

Kennedy had commanded a PT boat which was sunk in the Pacific in the middle of the war before becoming a senator and then president, all of which no doubt is the kind of background one needs in dealing with a psychopath with his hands on atomic weapons and an ICBM delivery system that can reach both Los Angeles and Sydney. The following outlines where we are at, which seems like a reasonable place to be, even while being as frightening as one can imagine:

We cannot easily dismiss the reasonable likelihood that a trigger event leads to a US pre-emptive strike “intended to disable all North Korean offensive capabilities”.

This is the very idea that should be implanted in the minds of every North Korean leader, and in the minds of their protectors in China and Russia. What else can you do short of war? And this is no doubt part of the American calculation:

[The possibility that] because of imperfect intelligence, the strike fails absolutely, after which the DPRK military unleashes all its remaining capabilities on South Korea and Tokyo.

So here is their inane conclusion:

Does anyone think that Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un are statesmen? Can we imagine either of them having a “Kennedy” moment and walking the world away from war? The potential for this crisis to turn bad is very real – we should all be very careful.

Really, that is their final sentence. But beyond that, how do you make a deal with someone you cannot trust not to do what he is clearly planning to do and will lie without compunction if it suits him? If this is the kind of advice they have, our greatest good luck today is that none of these characters is offering advice directly to the American president.

What’s next?

From Drudge and I assume everywhere else. The one thing no one will do is ask Hillary or Obama what they would do. And this is not an American problem, it is a problem for us all.

 

If you doubt the left is insane then read this

You know, the left really is insane: Father’s Day now too ‘political’.

A heart-tugging television commercial celebrating Fath­er’s Day by promoting the ­special role of fathers in the lives of their children has been pulled after being deemed too “polit­ical” ahead of the government’s same-sex ­marriage postal ballot.

This year’s commercial — featuring a father singing his baby a lullaby — will not be broadcast after Free TV Australia, representing the free-to-air commercial networks, informed­ not-for-profit group Dads4Kids that its Father’s Day ads “likely contained political matter”.

After being told this week that its ad had been rejected, Dads4Kids released a statement to The Weekend Australian yesterda­y expressing its disappointment, as opponents and suppor­t­ers of same-sex marriage defended the commercial.

Former prime minister Tony Abbott said the development was the latest example of how the “thought police” would operate in the “brave new world of same-sex marriage” while gay marriage advocate and Victorian Liberal MP Tim Wilson slammed the Free TV determin­ation as “ridiculous advice that should be ignored”.

“If you don’t like being bullied by activists, vote no,” Mr Abbott told The Weekend Australian.

“If you don’t like political ­correctness, vote no, because it’s the best way you have to stop it in its tracks.”

In its statement, Dads4Kids said the majority of free-to-air TV networks across Australia had “graciously run these ads for free as a community service ­announcement” for 15 years.

“Unfortunately, what is a simple­ Father’s Day message has now become a ‘political’ statement,” the group said.

“It is extraordinary that this is where we have come to as a country; we can no longer celebrate Father­’s Day without being forced to look at it through the lens of the same-sex marriage debate.

“It’s a tragedy that a political motive is now implied in any mention of fatherhood … Not everything is about same-sex marriage.”

On the left everything is political, but a stable traditional home, mother-father-children, is one of their most sociopathic targets.