On Tuesday, Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, whose bleak projections of future deaths from COVID-19 influenced governments around the world to institute massive lockdowns, admitted of Sweden, which did not institute harsh lockdowns, “It is interesting that adopting a policy which is short of a full lockdown – they have closed secondary schools and universities and there is a significant amount of social distancing, but it’s not a full lockdown – they have got quite a long way to the same effect.”
From The Economist just now. We live in the midst of such idiocy in almost every direction that it will be a miracle if we get through this without a major collapse, going well beyond a mere depression. You really have much to fear when it’s Daniel Andrews leading the way. Plus this:
Our cover this week calls for a global effort to tackle climate change. Covid-19 creates a unique chance to steer the economy away from carbon at a much lower financial, social and political cost than before. Rock-bottom energy prices make it easier to cut subsidies for fossil fuels and to introduce a tax on carbon. The revenues from that tax can help repair battered government finances. The businesses at the heart of the fossil-fuel economy—oil and gas firms, steel producers, carmakers—are already going through the agony of shrinking their long-term capacity and employment. Getting economies back on their feet calls for investment in climate-friendly infrastructure that boosts growth and creates new jobs. Low interest rates make the bill smaller than ever. The world should seize the moment.
I will have to apologise since I calculated the cost-per-life-saved incorrectly in my previous post. I had estimated the number at $30 million per person saved by the shutdown of the economy. I have, however, been contacted by an actuary who has alerted me to the same costing error as noted in the comments by Bad Samaritan:
Steve. I agree 100%, but have just re-read your cry-from-the-heart, and I come up with it costing three hundred million per life saved; not $30 Million.
This makes it even more imperative that strong steps be taken to do something since a human life is worth ten times more than any of us first thought!
The actual cost-per-life-saved is $300 million. And that is an accurate estimate of the cost, and until the government provides a better one, this seems as accurate as one can work it out. Of course, the same ethical principles apply as previously.
I will however note by way of an explanation that I am hardly the first person in the midst of this pandemic to get their numerical estimates wrong although I may be the only one to have reduced the impact in the calculations I had made. Let me highlight a bit of what’s going on. First this: Dr. Birx: Government Classifying All Deaths Of Patients With Coronavirus As COVID-19 Deaths. Hmmmmm:
According to the response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force, the government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths.
Dr. Deborah Birx made that announcement during Tuesday’s briefing. She confirmed the classification will be made regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to loss of life.
The task force coordinator went on to say the federal government is continuing to count the suspected COVID-19 deaths despite other nations doing the exact opposite.
“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and lets say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem, some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death,” she explained. “Right now, we’re still recording it.”
That is, every number you see coming from the United States has been amplified as a matter of policy. And here is further confirmation: HOW HONEST IS THE COVID FATALITY COUNT? About as honest as you might expect from governments who have gone hysterical in predicting doom and disaster.
Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
And among the comments there was this:
We are dealing with out and out fraud. There is then this: CDC Director: Virus Death Toll Will Be ‘Much, Much Lower’ Than Models. Also reported here: Fauci admits previous projection of 100K-240K coronavirus deaths was likely an overestimate. But what do we get in the papers, just sent to me online this morning: NEW YORK’S SHOCKING VIRUS STATISTIC AS UK DEATHS SPIKE.
New York and New Jersey have both seen their daily death tolls jump to unwanted new records on Wednesday (local time) for the second day in a row, while New York City’s coronavirus toll surged well past 4500 — significantly more than the number killed in the September 11 terror attacks.
And then there was this on a comment which is just from a non-expert deplorable here
Saw this chart a few days ago from NYC health officials. Looking at the deaths AND previous underlying health conditons is very compelling. Of 1139 deaths at that moment in time only 14 of them did not have underlying health issues. And they are scamming us in another way also. They started couting the “confirmed” cases with case #1 and counting. So this is eventually going to be a really big number, the kind the media and dem party just love.Where it gets less than honest is when they fail to deduct the “recovered cases” from the original number. The Maine CDC gives me a chart in various ways but does the same thing. I am taking their info and have been making my own chart for ten days. I do the simple arithmetic and have a column showing just “active” cases, those who still are treating for it. The number of recovered cases as a percentage of confirmed cases is growing steadily. I wrote to them late today and suggest they show the “active” as another column in order to help give people some peace of mind. I also asked them for a chart of the death rate vs underlying health issues. Not sure what I will get for an answer.
$300 million dollars per life saved.
All just taken from Lucianne.com. No story on the CoronaV on the first page when I opened it to look has been left out. All provide yet more evidence that the media are lying swine, in cahoots with the left. No one knows where this ends up, but there’s more to the story than you see in the papers or on the ABC. Things may be as bad as they say, but they also may not be that bad, and may even be getting better. But they are all in a hopeful mood that many of us will die and Donald Trump will no longer be president and Joe Biden will replace him. They really are evil, and there is no exaggeration intended in saying that. They are just vile.
No one really knows where this is heading, but you will only get the darkest stories and the most negative projections from the media, and that is a worldwide phenomenon. It’s a major problem that you cannot trust what you find in the media at a time like this. The BBC made its reputation reporting the events of WWII accurately so that when a positive Allied story was reported, the Germans took it as a true story. The media is no longer like that. What they write is filtered through what they wish to be true. and for reasons known best to themselves they wish the coronavirus to be as bad as it can possibly be.
Proving once again that
progressives are anti-American.–The demise of the Fourth Estate is complete.=The mainstream media are disgusting. That sentence could open every article about the mainstream media in a time of coronavirus. The media’s hostility to Trump is so extreme that there is no lie they won’t tell to damage him – never mind that doing so might destroy the American economy or cause other unimaginable harm to the American people. In addition to lies, the media’s other line of attack is to call everything Trump says or does “racist.” When it comes to the coronavirus, the media have a friend in the Chinese communist party that started this epidemic. The communists would also like Trump to be “racist,”–It’s like the moronic mandarins of the mainstream media – luminaries like Honest Dan Rather, Brian “Badass Like Buttigieg” Williams, and Zombie Cronkite – got together to create a plan to make people hate the media even more than they already did. It was a daunting challenge, since people view the mainstream media as something akin to syphilis without the upside. But it’s as if they finally succeeded, accomplishing, against all odds, something besides failure, leveraging this pandemic to destroy the media forever. The Chinese Coronavirus Bat Soup Syndrome has taken what’s left of the media’s reputation, poured gasoline on it,–The coronavirus epidemic is slowing down in China, and will not pose a risk to the majority of people, an Israeli Nobel Prize laureate has said. Michael Levitt, an American-British-Israeli biophysicist who won the 2013 Nobel prize for chemistry for “the development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems,” has become something of a household name in China over the last few months. Although his specialty is not in epidemiology, he accurately forecast the slowing down of the spread of the virus in February, giving hope to those affected by the lockdown.–Shalva Dahan, the last patient in hospital at Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer who was on board the Diamond Princess cruise ship was released today, a spokesperson for Sheba said. Dahan spent 28 days in an isolation room at Sheba after she was diagnosed with the novel coronavirus upon her return to the country from the ship. Several hundreds people aboard the boat that docked in Japan caught the virus.Sheba said that Dahan’s last two test for coronavirus came back negative.–“Most of Those Infected Won’t Even Know
It” – Israeli Virologist Tells World Leaders
to Calm Unnecessary Panic over ‘Exaggerated’
CoronavirusPosted by ladydawgfan — 3/19/2020 2:00:01 AMThe cases of the coronavirus jumped to 9,225 in the US on Wednesday. The number of deaths blamed on the virus is 150 in the US. The number of estimated deaths from the flu this year, based on numbers from the CDC is 22,000. Top Israeli virologist Prof. Jihad Bishara, the director of the Infectious Disease Unit at Petah Tikva’s Beilinson Hospital, said this week most people will recover from the coronavirus without even knowing they were sick. Dr. Bishara said global leaders and the media need to quit pushing panic and calm people down. The Times of Israel reported: A leading Israeli virologist on Sunday urged world leaders to calm their citizens–Laura Ingraham demanded “total cooperation and openness from China” in response to their role in the coronavirus pandemic, adding the country has “blood on their hands” and they should be punished if they do not provide information. “It’s essential that our health experts work cooperatively with other countries and that we all share data and findings about the disease as we try to stop it spread all over the world.(Snip)”But we need the Chinese government to give us total and complete access to all their scientific data, including, by the way, the findings of doctors who first studied and discovered the virus.”–House Democrats Propose Lifting Tariffs
On Chinese Imports, Rewarding China for
Downplaying Wuhan VirusA leading House Democrat is suggesting that we end tariffs on Chinese imports amid the spread of Wuhan Virus , essentially rewarding the Chinese for their secretive and problematic handling of the virus that is quickly spreading to all corners of the globe. Florida Congresswoman Stephanie Murphy, whose husband manufactures sportswear in Chinese factories according to an article by The Hill, could potentially benefit from such a move. The proposed legislation is co-sponsored by Democrat Joe Cunningham of South Carolina. Murphy also owns a patent on one of the products manufactured by her husband. Murphy and Cunningham’s plan does not provide any insight or plans–BREAKING: Italian Health Ministry Confirms
ONLY TWELVE or 3% of Coronavirus Fatalities
in Study Did Not Have Other Serious
Health ComplicationsPosted by ladydawgfan — 3/19/2020 12:26:58 AMSince early March Italy became the epicenter of of the coronavirus epidemic. As of Wednesday morning there have been 31,506 confirmed cases of coronavirus in Italy and 2,503 deaths. But new data from the Italian government shows that the people dying from the coronavirus are either the elderly or have other complications. Today’s news out of Italy confirms this is the case. 50% of those who died from coronavirus had THREE DIFFERENT SERIOUS HEALTH CONDITIONS and the average per person had 2.7 serious health conditions. Only 12 coronavirus fatalities had NO previous health concerns before coming down with the coronavirus.–WHO Needs to Be Held Responsible! US
Coronavirus Numbers Including Asymtomatic
Patients Shows Mortality Rate 0.2% to 0.8%
and Not 3.4% as Reported by WHOThe controversial Ethiopian politician and Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, claimed in a press conference in early March that the fatality rate for the coronavirus was many multiples that of the fatality rate of the common flu. This egregiously false premise has led to the greatest economic panic in world history. The Director General of the WHO spoke on March 3, 2020 and shared this related to the coronavirus: While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.–Millions of Americans across the country are, day by day, adjusting their lives to better cope with the economic, social, and political impacts caused by the Chinese coronavirus pandemic, as a dark money network simultaneously works overtime to further politicize the festering crisis.A Democrat-aligned Super PAC announced on Tuesday that it will spend $5 million on negative ads targeting President Trump’s response to the coronavirus.“The campaign from Pacronym — a political action committee affiliated with the nonprofit group Acronym — represents the first major pivot to coronavirus-related advertising fewer than 250 days from the election,” the Washington Post reported–
Dr. John Robson investigates the unsound origins and fundamental inaccuracy, even dishonesty, of the claim that 97% of scientists, or “the world’s scientists”, or something agree that climate change is man-made, urgent and dangerous.
For a transcript of this video including links to some of the sources, please visit http://climatediscussionnexus.com/vid…
That is so last century. And who really cares about the Great Plague?
Did you know that the Spanish flu began in America?
Nothing like globalisation. As for the damage caused in the long-term, the climate-change virus – shutting down our carbon-based power supplies which are needed to run our hospitals amongst many other things – may have the worst effects of all.
On the other hand, if this coronavirus catches on, twelve years might be the optimistic story.
From Watts Up With That?: Australians – Please Sign the Petition for a Royal Commission into Climate Science.
Guest announcement by Mike Jonas,
The petition can be signed online at: https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_list?id=EN1231
Only an Australian resident or citizen can sign. Note that signing is a multi-step process, ending with an email signature confirmation.
Alan Kohler (read on) has called for a royal commission to ‘review the evidence’ on Climate and Energy Policies to conduct:
“… a review of the evidence on (climate change and energy) in which everyone is required (under oath) to tell the truth.”
Alan Kohler is an honourable high profile journalist, investment guru and businessman who believes the evidence of the “97% of scientists” (without questioning truth to power?).
Alan and WUWT readers may differ on what we believe will be revealed in such a Royal Commission, but we do agree that we all need to see the evidence, the impact and the timing, so we can have a better idea of what we all need to do, first for the people of Australia, and for the people of the world.
Please bring this Media Release below to your friends’ and family’s and social media’s attention and if they happen to be Australian – urge them to sign this e-petition.
It could be that a strange and unlikely alliance of alarmists and realists can line up in the same direction, with a common purpose – to have a Royal Commission to get at the truth.
Imagine what this would mean for the CAGW hypothesis if we can get this Royal Commission up.
Imagine the 97% and the 3% of scientists all telling the truth under oath to give everyone assurance that quality due diligence is applied to underlying science-based assumptions, data collection, technological developments and evidence based public policies.
Australians: Please read and sign House of Representatives e-Petition EN1231:
Please note: This post is from a comment by Chris Dawson a few days ago, edited and upgraded to a full post. The original comment is at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/02/11/climate-science-does-an-about-face-dials-back-the-worst-case-scenario/#comment-2914552
Jo Nova has put up the petition on her blog: Petition: Alan Kohler wants a Royal Commission …
There are only a few more than 500 signatures so far. A lot more are needed. Please send this on to everyone you know, alarmists and realists alike.
“I have tested Uri Geller in my laboratory at King’s College, London University, with specially-designed apparatus.
“The Geller effect – of metal bending – is clearly not brought about by fraud. It is so exceptional that it presents a crucial challenge to modern science, and could even destroy the latter if no explanation becomes available.”
Professor John Taylor of
King’s College, London
The question we were discussing was how to deal with people who actually believe global warming and climate change are genuine problems. He is looking for arguments to help others see the light. I, on the other hand, long ago reached the conclusion that there is absolutely no reason for the slightest concern, and have therefore stopped arguing with people, other than just for fun, partly because there is nothing for me to learn, other than to further confirm for myself that these people are unbelievable fools who may yet create havoc on a grand scale across the Western world. The main reason, however, is because these people are deaf to reason. I am always open to persuasion should some forecast actually turn out to be accurate and the seas really do start to rise, which to me is a .001% probability. In the meantime, I think anyone who treats global warming as a genuine problem has some emotional deficiency in their lives that need to be propped up by these fantastic beliefs. I do not doubt their sincerity.
There is, of course, an actual problem, which is that people really do believe that global warming is a genuine issue. This is in and of itself a major political problem since because of these beliefs, governments are putting in place all kinds of idiotic policies that will make us much worse off. As for the supposed problem that works them up so much, I think of these people as naive, scientific innocents, who have not done any genuine research and in any case do not know how to investigate such issues properly. I do not doubt there is more carbon in the atmosphere than there had been a few years ago, and that for a time there had been a gentle upturn in global temperatures which may even be continuing. But I do not believe they are related in any way that matters. More importantly, nothing that will ever happen to the weather will cause the seas to rise or in any way threaten any of us, other than in the ways weather has always affected us in the past – see Hanrahan.
My way of arguing with global swarmists is, in part, to remind them of Uri Geller and his supernatural ability to bend spoons, an ability that had been verified by scientists. And by chance, after we parted I came upon in a secondhand bookshop Uri Geller’s 1975 personal account of his life and abilities, My Story. And there, as the opening quote on the very first page, set off all on its own, is the quote you see above. Not only had his abilities been authenticated at the University of London, more famously he had had his abilities assessed and validated by scientists at Stanford University. As you read the passages below from Geller’s book, bear in mind the notoriously bogus “97% of scientists” statistic. By the way, anyone who quotes the 97% stat who has not examined its origins through the eyes of sceptics is asking to be fleeced. But back to Geller:
“I had been going through scientific tests in the United States at the Stanford Research Institute at Menlo Park, California. The first results had confirmed that something strange and new was happening, both with the metal objects involved and with telepathy experiments. The researchers there had indicated that, if the tests continued to check out as they had, they would have a serious effect on modern science.” (Geller 1975: 14)
That really was the case which I vividly recall. Geller had been examined by a bunch of scientists at the SRI and they were ready to write a new chapter in the history of physics. So how did the public react to all this? Geller describes a poll undertaken by the Daily Mail. You ready?
“The tabulation showed that 95.5 per cent of those voting believed I had genuine psychic powers, and only 4.5 per cent indicated they thought I was just using showman’s tricks. In announcing the results, the Daily Mail said: ‘Time and time again in the many letters sent to us, readers say that while they were skeptical at first, it was the Stanford Research Institute evidence which finally convinced them.'” (Geller 1975: 68-69)
He had a great magic act, fooled lots of people, has recently been inducted into the Magicians Hall of Fame, and has a net worth of $20 million. Not bad for a magician who has essentially only four tricks in his repertoire.
Meanwhile, the same gullible fools across every level of society – rich or poor, educated and dropout, politically left and right – buy this global warming idiocy, which is making many an entrepreneur far more than a measly $20m. It has become a way to academic fame and fortune. It will eventually disappear when nothing ever happens, and more important issues come along, such as the coronavirus, or perhaps something worse. I suspect that for a lot of people there is a level of embarrassment in discovering how gullible they have been. In the meantime, there is the real Geller-effect – being conned into believing absolutely anything on the authority of “science”, unlike the original Geller effect which is a zombie-like belief that if a scientist says something, or is reported to have said something, then it must be true.
Below are videos surrounding Geller’s appearance on the Johnny Carson show in the 1970s. Two things are particularly noteworthy. First is that when the props were set up by a professional magician – in this case Jame Randi – Geller’s abilities absolutely failed. Second, and this is for all you young folks out there, Johnny Carson was smoking during the show!
First, here is James Randi explaining how so many are tricked.
This is a straight up excerpt from the show.
And if you are interested in seeing the whole thing, here’s the full show.
I think of the belief in global warming as equivalent to believing that Uri Geller could bend spoons with the power of his mind. The science is never settled.
And for added interest in how acute scientists can be, here is the link to the recording of the experiments at Stanford in 1974.