What exactly is Dick Cheney getting at here?

You know that thing about if it walks like a duck. This is Dick Cheney discussing Obama:

If you had somebody as president who wanted to take America down, who wanted to fundamentally weaken our position in the world and reduce our capacity to influence events, turn our back on our allies and encourage our adversaries, it would look exactly like what Barack Obama’s doing.

But still no one comes right out and says what everyone thinks.

And here is Hugh Hewitt’s full interview with Dick and Liz Cheney in which the above quote appears. The whole thing is short and should be